Two insights on teaching computer programming

Matthias Felleisen matthias at ccs.neu.edu
Wed Jan 4 12:10:57 EST 2006


On Jan 4, 2006, at 12:00 PM, David Klappholz wrote:

> At 08:21 AM 1/3/2006, Matthias Felleisen wrote:
>
>> On Jan 3, 2006, at 3:00 AM, David Klappholz wrote:
>>
>>> At 06:51 PM 1/2/2006, Kirby Urner wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> What a lot of students are looking for in a first year CS is a lot 
>>>> of
>>>> overview and exposure to tools they'll be able to use in other 
>>>> walks of
>>>> life, i.e. they've already decided they're not CS majors
>>>
>>> Some, if not many, of us have a first CS course specifically for CS 
>>> majors
>>> and another one for non-majors, but I think/know that our CS majors 
>>> want "a
>>> lot of
>>> overview and exposure to tools they'll be able to use" from the 
>>> first course.
>>
>> The average student at an average college just wants a degree so that
>> she can find a well-paying job that doesn't demand too much. Why dont
>> we just hand out those degrees and focus on the few that matter and
>> our research?
>
> Your response reveals something that really disturbs me about many 
> university faculty. If you can't answer your own question, I'll let 
> others answer it rather than showing the anger I feel.

I assume you realize the question was rhetorical. -- Matthias





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